4th and 5th Street Improvements Pilot Project

What in the third world country did yall do to 4th street? It looks like a 5th grade build a city project, ugly as sin and complete chaos. Who ever approved this "improvement" needs to hit the road. What a complete waste of money and time.

This is a failed project and needs to reversed immediately. This has increased congestion and confusion, and has had a negative effect for emergency vehicles as well as the tax paying citizens of this community. I hope the city corrects this mistake as soon as possible for the sake of so many people!

I really want to like this pilot. I like the idea of changing the behavior of commuters to use alternative routes, or to slow and enjoy the beauty of driving through downtown as they pass through.
I'm all for a change along 4th and 5th and actually was one of the people with the unpopular opinion of making them two way and eliminating the one ways.
I live downtown, in the original square mile, and have for over 16 years. To me the driving lane on 4th and the parallel parking are too narrow. It reminds me of when Delta used to have the two lanes on Main next to their parallel parking, it was always uncomfortable to park and extremely unsafe feeling when stepping out of your car (their uplift eliminated this unsafe situation).
A change needs to be made to reduce the scooter and "art" space width, to push the bike lane closer to the curb and to give parallel parkers space to park and to safely exit and reenter their cars. With shopping bags, car seats, canes, etc there just doesn't seem to be a safe way to exit your vehicle until you make sure there is absolutely no car in sight.

Don't give up, but please adjust.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

I took the bike lane on 4th the other day and loved it. It’s the first time I’ve felt safe as a bicyclist on that road. For being such a bike-loving community, I’ve been disappointed in the infrastructure for bicycle travel. I am happy to see this step. I live beside this street and watch cars race down 4th and 5th daily. While on a walk on 5th recently, my husband was hit by a car that was speeding and turned into a side street too quickly while we were crossing it. (He is fine, but it was scary.) I understand people are upset because of changes to traffic patterns, but I hope we can observe and wait to pass judgement until we see the results.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

Thank you City of Grand Junction for the changes you've made to 4th Street and will be making to 5th. For literally decades road and street design, not just here but all over the country, have prioritized the fast movement of drivers over the safety of other road users and local residents. This new design reflects the prioritization of safety over speed.

Those who are complaining about this traffic calming have become so accustomed to having their desire to drive rapidly through the city catered to for so long that they don't know how to react when the safety of others is taken into consideration. Ignore them. Fourth and 5th Streets are located in residential areas, there's even a park between the two streets, this is not a place for fast driving, this is where people (including kids!) live and play. At long last, it's being made safe. Thank you.

I navigated fourth street on Wednesday evening and was appalled. You are not only going to slow down traffic, you are going to discourage it unless it is on a bicycle or walking. The pandemic didn’t kill our downtown small businesses but you surely will with this pilot project. Please reconsider

I live off of 5th and Colorado ave and using the alleyways to leave my home these changes have caused many inconveniences regarding leaving my home safely to get to work and run errands.

I love our downtown and the City has gone ahead and begun a disastrous plan to complicate and hinder access. Sure some people may think it's a good idea. Most do not. So are you, City Council, going to go ahead and construct more changes whether the public approves or not? Most people do not ride bikes for transportation. Most people ride bikes or walk (hike) for recreation. Or walk long distances to shop or get to appointments. And most people do not ride your E-scooters. Most people drive. We understand your ulterior motive is to reduce traffic and ultimately eliminate cars with internal combustion engines. How about you be the first to walk to work, to your meetings or ride a bus or scooter? Why make these changes when they are not needed? You are negatively impacting our local downtown businesses and the local people who work there. You are making it more difficult to access our beautiful downtown, but that is likely the goal, moving forward with your SAP. Stop re configuring our streets and parking and bike lanes. Your new parking arrangements will be a nightmare. STOP!!!! This project will have a negative impact on our downtown.

Slowing down cars in a place where many people walk increases safety. There may be increased frustration and an adjustment period for drivers, but ultimately the narrower lanes lead people to slow down. Slower cars generally means less accidents but ESPECIALLY means lower consequence accidents. A pedestrian (or even someone else in a car) getting hit by a vehicle going 30 miles per hour results in far more serious consequences than anyone getting hit by a vehicle moving 15 miles an hour.
For those that say that they only drive, chances are you park and walk downtown, or maybe one day you get older and you can't drive any more and are forced to walk, or maybe your kids walk. The point is that not everyone drives, but everyone walks or rolls at some point in their life -- and to me it seems that pedestrians deserve safety from serious injury or death as much or more than drivers deserve the extra 30 seconds to a minute it may take on their trip to slow down through downtown.
I am so proud to live in a city that cares about the community and all of its citizens. Maybe this change won't stick (I hope it does), but the point is they are trying to make things better for the community as a whole, and they are willing to work with citizens and stakeholders alike to iterate and find the best solution.

Slowing down cars in a place where many people walk increases safety. There may be increased frustration and an adjustment period for drivers, but ultimately the narrower lanes lead people to slow down. Slower cars generally means less accidents but ESPECIALLY means lower consequence accidents. A pedestrian getting hit by a car going 30 miles per hour, or even another car for that matter, results in far more serious consequences than anyone getting hit by a vehicle moving 15 miles an hour.

For those that say that they only drive, chances are you Park and walk downtown, or maybe one day you get older and you can't drive any more and are forced to walk, or maybe your kids walk. The point is that not everyone drives, but everyone walks or rolls at some point in their life -- and to me it seems that pedestrians deserve safety from serious injury or death as much or more than drivers deserve the extra 30 seconds to a minute it may take on their trip to slow down through downtown.

My personal experience driving, walking and biking on the new 4th street was everything I'd hope for in a healthy downtown. My car was slowed enough to become more aware of my surroundings, crossing the street as a pedestrian was a dream since it's less distance to worry about, and I didn't feel like I had to take the whole lane and risk my life trying to turn left on my bike from 4th to Main Street.

I am so proud to live in a city that cares about the community and all of its citizens. Maybe this change won't stick (I hope it does), but the point is they are trying to make things better for the community as a whole, and they are willing to work with citizens and stakeholders alike to iterate and find the best solution. I 💛 GJ

Slowing down cars in a place where many people walk increases safety. There may be increased frustration and an adjustment period for drivers, but ultimately the narrower lanes lead people to slow down. Slower cars generally means less accidents but ESPECIALLY means lower consequence accidents. A pedestrian getting hit by a car going 30 miles per hour, or even another car for that matter, results in far more serious consequences than anyone getting hit by a vehicle moving 15 miles an hour.

For those that say that they only drive, chances are you Park and walk downtown, or maybe one day you get older and you can't drive any more and are forced to walk, or maybe your kids walk. The point is that not everyone drives, but everyone walks or rolls at some point in their life -- and to me it seems that pedestrians deserve safety from serious injury or death as much or more than drivers deserve the extra 30 seconds to a minute it may take on their trip to slow down through downtown.

I am so proud to live in a city that cares about the community and all of its citizens. Maybe this change won't stick (I hope it does), but the point is they are trying to make things better for the community as a whole, and they are willing to work with citizens and stakeholders alike to iterate and find the best solution. I 💛 GJ

Slowing down cars in a place where many people walk increases safety. There may be increased frustration and an adjustment period for drivers, but ultimately the narrower lanes lead people to slow down. Slower cars generally means less accidents but ESPECIALLY means lower consequence accidents. A pedestrian getting hit by a car going 30 miles per hour, or even another car for that matter, results in far more serious consequences than anyone getting hit by a vehicle moving 15 miles an hour.

For those that say that they only drive, chances are you park and walk downtown, or maybe one day you get older and you can't drive any more and are forced to walk, or maybe your kids walk. The point is that not everyone drives, but everyone walks or rolls at some point in their life -- and to me it seems that pedestrians deserve safety from serious injury or death as much or more than drivers deserve the extra 30 seconds to a minute it may take on their trip to slow down through downtown.

I am so proud to live in a city that cares about the community and all of its citizens. Maybe this change won't stick (I hope it does), but the point is they are trying to make things better for the community as a whole, and they are willing to work with citizens and stakeholders alike to iterate and find the best solution. I 💛 GJ

Julia Surkis
2:58 PM (2 minutes ago)
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Slowing down cars in a place where many people walk increases safety. There may be increased frustration and an adjustment period for drivers, but ultimately the narrower lanes lead people to slow down. Slower cars generally means less accidents but ESPECIALLY means lower consequence accidents. A pedestrian getting hit by a car going 30 miles per hour, or even another car for that matter, results in far more serious consequences than anyone getting hit by a vehicle moving 15 miles an hour.

For those that say that they only drive, chances are you Park and walk downtown, or maybe one day you get older and you can't drive any more and are forced to walk, or maybe your kids walk. The point is that not everyone drives, but everyone walks or rolls at some point in their life -- and to me it seems that pedestrians deserve safety from serious injury or death as much or more than drivers deserve the extra 30 seconds to a minute it may take on their trip to slow down through downtown.

I am so proud to live in a city that cares about the community and all of its citizens. Maybe this change won't stick (I hope it does), but the point is they are trying to make things better for the community as a whole, and they are willing to work with citizens and stakeholders alike to iterate and find the best solution. I 💛 GJ